Hey, look! The community is still active!

[hunterjwizzzard]

I'm really not surprised. I swing by every now and then and lurk as I have been for years. Just dusted off the game again for the first time in a couple years(not that I haven't thought about it frequently). Looks silly but awesome in my 43"4k monitor!

Anyway, my most recent game is suffering a complete drought of largest pods. There have not been any for sale in days, and the last place that sold 'em doesn't seem to manufacture. Any suggestions? I'm open to console commands if there is one! I just want more largest pods

[extratitanian]

Can you enable the Swallows and pull them off them? The only other thing I can think of is keeping manufacturers stocked with stuff and hoping they spit one out eventually.

[Denacity]

You have have to keep General Industrial stocked I think

[techno]

Hi hjw, if you stock up shears yard with resources, they should produce largest pods, failing that you can enable sales in the moth factories by adding sales software,typing into the terminal interface 
"Hangar software, s"

Hope that helps and welcome back. 

[hunterjwizzzard]

Yep, Shears yard did the trick. They must sell out fast, the only way I could get any was to supply them, then camp the place. Just sort of sat there buying them as they came into existence

[Pilot]

Feb 27, 2020 14:27:40 GMT -5 hunterjwizzzard said:

Yep, Shears yard did the trick. They must sell out fast, the only way I could get any was to supply them, then camp the place. Just sort of sat there buying them as they came into existence

Disclaimer: Sorry, but you'll need to look up the TI commands it has been a long time since I last played around with Hardwar.

An easier method is to prevent other traders from entering by blocking off any traders with the ill intention of buying your super rare largest pods that you custom ordered.

This is the first method I thought of... I quickly thought of another method after typing the first sentence and have revised this likely 5 or 6 times by the end of this post... yes already 3 times...
I think I'll call this method: Building Rome in a Day. Maybe MisOp would have been a better a fit? Though I think this method would likely take 2 or 3 game days...

Step 1: Hire Thugs, 6 or 7 should do.

Step 2: Send them to the moth factor(y/ies).
Bargain Moths sells Silver-Ys, I think only one at a time.
Downtown Motors is also close by.
Highrise Umm. . . Yep! I forgot the name of the first Moth factory I discovered in game, as well as the only one I knew about for month(s)... Embarrassing YES!

Step 3: Take a magic carpet ride. . . Err Moth, Moon Moth ride. . . I personally recommend a Thug driven, but a professional is fine as well.
Remember: You need to order your thugs to meet you there. (Is there a plural form of there, since you might have had to order them to other factor[y/ies] as well? I doubt it though?)

Step 4: Buy! Buy!! Sell!?? After landing and disembarking buy your new Moth! Wait you rode with your thug, or flew there yourself and didn't order a thug to fly your fully equipped Moth away. . . I figured sell was worth placing in the title. Seriously though after buying a Moth do not forget to have it leave the Hangar, wait for it, before buying the next one.

Step 5: Have thug will travel. Order the thug in the new Moth to fly to the Hangar you want to begin locking down, in this case Shears Yard and have them park inside.

Step 6: goto Step 4: This is were a nice script would be nice, return to step 4, rinse and repeat.

Step 7: Supply and Demand Before your last Thug is "parked" at Sears Yard supply the hangar with the materials necessary to make the [item_name] you want.
Alternatively, version permitting have the last thug land and sell those materials, odds are you had to purchase the required goods yourself.

Step 8: The Waiting Game vs. the Guessing Game
Windows 8: Lucky If you happen to fly by and see a nice queue, odds are your pod(s) are ready and those greedy vultures are circling to get them.

Windows 8.1 Trial and Error You go and check on production, often. Or you could just have a trusty thug tell you the hangar's inventory.
Just skip line and order a thug to leave when you think, or you could just have your thug report the buildings inventory.

Random fact: Windows skipped 7, 8, 9. . . The primary version number never changed from version 6, introduced in Vista... [If you read this gratz I wasted 5 minutes of your day.]

Step 9: Cutting Line At that time, jump in front of the first trader, I recommend not looking at the hangar door, till after you order a thug to leave. If you have them targeted you can turn at about the right time to be acknowledged by the hangar.

Step 10: Buy the item you wanted. Seriously, I hope I didn't need to say that.

Since, Hardwar is old enough. And I doubt that an evil patch that will gut a the TI, further..., are likely to be spit out. . .

Personally I recommend doing this Hardwar style! Instead of the goody-2-shoes* style, that long... post yes that horrid method, that is impractical unless you have the funds of Lazuras and Klamp-G combined. . . {Joking aside that method is, EXPENSIVE!}
* *cough*teeth02*cough* Coincidence? Well till I realized it, then you know, Definitely Not, specially since I stopped in to point front at him. Post to follow hahaha. . .

poor bloke method said:

Step 1: Hire a Thug I know you're thinking, "Is this really a different method? Wont I just be flying moth after moth to the hangar I want to blockade?"
Well yes, but that would still be expensive! I'm saving you 5k or 6k in thug hire fees the least you can do is trust me! Hmm shouldn't those be famous last words?

Step 2: If you didn't. . . you should have bought a Moon Moth to taxi your little thug with. Hold up I thought you said this was a cheap method! It is, it is those taxi fees would have added up. . . .

Step 3: Now that the expensive stuff is over. . . ! ! ! Relax it is. Fly your thug to a Moth Factory. Either Bargain Moths or Downtown Motors, or Highrise <!--- . . .

Step 4: Tell your thug to get out. Odds are despite using this method you didn't know that little thug can be a great meat shield, i.e. passenger, you should play with the TI more, there are interesting tricks to be found.

Step 5: Order the thug to board. Wait! I could have skipped step 4, I just told it to get out... I was the passenger! *Cough* Tell the thug to board bay 1. . . Nothing Happened or it refused!!!

Okay time to be serious: Yep that IS rare.
Here my memory is a little fuzzy, it seems like the thug will ignore or refuse the TI command to board a moth that the player does not own, with the exception of a Swallow, which players can also steal, I believe that is fixed in some Enhanced versions, but I'm not 100% sure.

I'll just create a post and link it here: hardwar.proboards.com/thread/723/ti-commands-revisited

Step 6: Syntax is actually important! Maybe. exec topdog,board 1 Notice that you do not type order topdog,board,1 there is a SPACE not a comma there.

Step 7: Have that Moth Thief park that stolen ride in the embargoed hangar! Woot! I can steal moths! No you can not, not truely anyway. What??? But my thug just did! Yes, but you, the player can not board it, hence you can not equip it, hence it only has a laser, which may be okay for a thug to make a kamikaze run.

Windows 7: Speed and Greed, the Future is! Really want to remove that yodal reference now that yogi is all the rage. Heh.
I said you could not steal it, you can still buy it though. WHYYYY!!! Would you recommend THAT!!! I feel a new patch will be coming before any more online games are hosted... I really think so. Sorry AI. Maybe you'll quit lurking so much. I'll make a further quote block below to explain that as a reward to anyone that bothers reading through all of my humorous drivel.

Step 8: Pick up your thug, rinse and repeat. To save time, order that thug into the passenger seat, after all players don't worry about speeding tickets.

Step 9: exec topdog,boardpass # replace # with the bay, if you are not sure of your bay type bay into the TI.

Step 10: exec topdog,out Remember! That the only way to get a cat... thug out of the passenger seat of a Moon Moth is an executive order. order topdog,out will not work, actually I don't think out even works with the order chain, otherwise disembark would not exist, imo. order topdog,disembark

Side note: Make sure at least one or two of the stolen moths are from the Downtown Motors or Highrise ?automotive? (That can't be right? Right?) Wherever you plan to focus on to get the Swallow after all if their stock isn't moving they wont make/release anything new.

Step 11: Wall flower, your thugs future job After borrowing the 6th moth have you thug fly to a building near building to embargo. You could also have the thug buzz the building, it can be a pain though,
order topdog,buzz,shears yard IF you take that approach, you have to CLEAR the thugs plans list, before giving a new command, I believe the thug will maintain course heading and speed when plans are cleared so... I won't recommend it.
IF you insist though, make sure to send an order to stop after using the clear command: order topdog,clear
STOP: In of the TI.txt files I have it metions stop, however I don't think I have tried it, or it did not work, so what you want to do is:
order topdog,thrust,0 Is what I think it is... but you should test it on yourself before trying it on a thug. Since stop might be -16384 The nice little number that makes good days or bad days in Hardwar. Particularly when you have loans out till you reach -16384 -x = positive happy numbers, Negative withdraw. Super unrealistic and unlikely to happen btw, as far as I know I'm the only to have such strange luck.


- THRUST: Sets the thrust of your moth, by a specific value, full speed ahead, or no thrust (beta 3+). Usage: THRUST [value (-16384 to 16384) or MAX or STOP].



Step 12: Supply the hangar, park the thug, have fun, occasionally remember to ask your thug, exec topdog,goods

Next post I'll fulfill your greed.

[Pilot]

Revisiting Step 7: So your now have your product and now you wonder what the blazes am I going to do with all these moths.


Well you could block other hangars, though that would anger other players, if online, or it could perhaps further cripple an already failing economy, which depending on your hangar's specialty weapons maybe? You could retire old Bob and the other by buying out their stock and blockading their hangars.

Why not return them to the factory? That makes since, but other than Bargain Moths, how many can the other two actually hold one? two? Will anyone be able to land afterwards?
Bargain Moth keeps a stock of one Moth at a time, so you could dump most of them there and even buy them there, but what of the rest? Note: Bargain Moths creates Swallow frames. However it does not actually seem to produce Swallows.

Oh how about a exit launch?

exec topdog,launch and before the moth is in the airlock exec topdog,out

This will let the hangar take care of the rest and keep your thug nice and healthy. While destroying that useless moth, though I think that a thug's empty moth launch can crash the game or maybe a server. . . Hence this is a bad thing yes.

So that method was useless, now what? Well it is simple in the offline world, have the thug transport a moth to your hangar and disembark or get out. Now use hangar software,* replace the * with the proper letter, a-z I do not remember which one, and it isn't listed in the TI commands lists that I found, so back to the guessing game. s could be it, or it could be sales. Then again maybe m, or maybe not.

Anyway mess around till you give your hangar the moth selling software and then, make sure you only have stolen moth(s) inside your hangar. Else you'll end up trading your real moth for that stolen one and really lose out.

Nice trick, but I'm playing online. . . So now what? Not as simple, but still do able buy a hangar, park those moths there, sell said hangar. Make sure all thugs, goods are out of the hangar before selling it.

TI command goods Nothing? Then go ahead.