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Post by Fred Nurke on Jan 12, 2011 9:32:46 GMT -5
So I just remembered Hardwar for the first time in a few years, and decided to search for "zedo hardwar" on Google, since I hadn't visited since about 2003.
Anyway, Google says "This site may harm your computer". I remember Zedo as being a pretty standup guy, so no doubt it's not his doing. But what does it mean? Is it a false alarm? Has the site been hijacked by some villain?
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Post by Pilot on Jan 13, 2011 0:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Zedo on Jan 14, 2011 9:00:24 GMT -5
I strongly recommend turning off the web site scanning in your browser. It is a form of advertising, not genuine security. Think about it, why doesn't your browser use a big security name like Norton or McAffee. Why Google? Because Google pays to be there! In turn they extort web masters like myself to *buy* their crappy web master tools and pay a monthly fee to "unblock" a site.
Do youself a favor and turn off the blocking of "malicious" web sites. A much beter option is to use a professional product like ZoneAlarm or Commodo, both of which have free versions.
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Post by masonik on Jan 16, 2011 21:46:53 GMT -5
Pfffffft! There are some words for google that should never be said! I know them but won't say them to avoid a ban! ;p
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Post by masonik on Jan 17, 2011 1:24:37 GMT -5
I've just been digging around the site "refreshing my memory" and kaspersky turned this up using Heuristics, which are often false positives. It might be worth changing the coding so it doesn't upset AVS. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kaspersky The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: zedo.hardwar.org.uk/maps/mainmapindex.htm The following threat was encountered: The requested object is INFECTED with the following viruses: HEUR:Trojan.Script.Generic -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Post by Captain Zedo on Jan 18, 2011 8:23:29 GMT -5
The site carries zipped and executable files which are *always* marked as viruses regardless of content. Once downloaded and scanned, they turn out okay.
Most surfers will realize quickly enough that their real-time scanners are scammers. They are used to send marketing data to some home base, slow your machine to a crawl, and do not stop any modern virus - in fact their updating modules, which bypass normal security in Windows, make it easier to infect you.
In a side note, I recently was asked to review some antivirus software and got copies of Vipre and BitDefender - total crap. Both were worse than any virus I could imagine and Vipre will not uninstall. I had to reload Windows from a mirror. I hate programs that sieze control of the user's machine. Well, I can't exactly say that. I make quite a bit removing these crapwares from other people's machines.
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Post by Captain Zedo on Jan 18, 2011 8:25:17 GMT -5
I got some news. My ZoneAlarm Anti-Spy Site program just turned in this board for hosting something from bannerad.com . Oooooo. I'm going to run and hide and never visit my own board again.  |
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Post by masonik on Jan 18, 2011 22:00:48 GMT -5
I've tried many AV and firewall combos. Norton and black ice was the combo back in the day but then norton turned into some memory hungry virus it's self. I used AVG Free and zone alarm free for a long while but didn't like how avg updates were so behind (not bad for free though). The biggest joke was avast! I'd notice virus symptoms, run a scan and turn up nothing. I'd look in the usual places and ind the virus manually then Avast would go "I found a virus!", wagging it's tail like a dog! LOL They should have called it halfassed...
Nearly all turn up false positives because of heuristics. eg. hardman.exe containing a keylogger - which is kinda true but it doesn't log all keystrokes just one key during remaps.
AVs don't work and i think the only solution is use linux or mac
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Post by Captain Zedo on Jan 20, 2011 9:40:26 GMT -5
I found the worst to be the new Vipre antivirus and firewall. It blocks its own installation. How ignorant is that? It also blocks even Administrator acess to the Control Panel and leaves no way for itself to be uninstalled - not even in Safe Mode. If I were hired to remove it from a machine, I'd recommend a reload. It's absolutely the worst.
The irony is that without access to resources, you can't remove malicious software, so whatever Vipre misses or misunderstands, can't be manually dealt with.
BitDefender isn't far behind. BitDefender does a better job of catching real viruses, but it misses the newest ones. They all do. The virus makers are always one step ahead. Someone, usually a lot of people, have to be infected before a virus can be identified. That's just the nature of the game.
One piece of software I like is AdsGone. It's a supplemental firewall to whatever you're using. Run it while you are browsing and it does an excellent job of blocking ads, tracking devices, etc. while allowing web pages to operate normally. Great for sites where you have to wade through ads to find the content.
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Post by riedquat on Feb 1, 2011 13:05:23 GMT -5
I found the worst to be the new Vipre antivirus and firewall. It blocks its own installation. How ignorant is that? ;D Dont know anything about Vipre but have seen that happening with other antivirus as well, like Avg and Avast deleting their own vital files ... in both cases the pc's were infected with such nasty home-made worms.... |
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Post by Captain Zedo on Feb 2, 2011 19:35:36 GMT -5
I was installing and testing several anti-virus wares on clean Windows Vista and 7 installations. I am confident that there weren't any software conflicts between other antivirus software (constant headache) or a virus. Vypre (or Vipre) and BitDefender just didn't get it right and I was using the discs that *their company's* sent me. Usually the ones they send out to be rated are "ringers" with all sorts of features and performance not included in the real retail package.
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Post by xaffax on Feb 4, 2011 16:18:34 GMT -5
I like the google search engine, android on my phone and the agenda. But chrome is annoying at best. Opera is fast and it gives you quite a bit of control over what sites are alowed to do and what not. The few pages that don't work with it I take for granted.And use firefox.
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Post by Captain Zedo on Feb 5, 2011 7:53:24 GMT -5
I like the google search engine, android on my phone and the agenda. But chrome is annoying at best. Opera is fast and it gives you quite a bit of control over what sites are alowed to do and what not. The few pages that don't work with it I take for granted.And use firefox. That's a good system, Xaffax. I used Opera religiously until around version 9 when it had trouble with Java. I play bridge and backgammon at Yahoo! and have to have my Java. I started using FireFox and got hooked. FireFox is as complicated as you want to make it. It allows you a good view under the hood with some third party tools. |
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Post by Pilot on Feb 6, 2011 2:14:19 GMT -5
Zedo, I think they ironed out the Java bugs in Opera the first time I tried it java didn't work so I ignored it for a long time, I use it 90% of the time now.
One of the newest features Opera has is Visual Mouse Gestures makes using mouse gestures more useful since you actually see what you are about to do instead of random guessing or time memorizing.
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Post by Captain Zedo on Feb 7, 2011 8:39:28 GMT -5
Zedo, I think they ironed out the Java bugs in Opera the first time I tried it java didn't work so I ignored it for a long time, I use it 90% of the time now. One of the newest features Opera has is Visual Mouse Gestures makes using mouse gestures more useful since you actually see what you are about to do instead of random guessing or time memorizing. I'll have to reinstall Opera and give it a try. I've gotten used to FireFox, and doubt I'll give it up. FireFox has its faults, though. Since last year they do a lot of spying and it takes forever for it to load because it's sending a list of your browsing history to its home site. |
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